It’s the conclusion of a poll done earlier this month by Forum Research that as many as 3-in-10 women may have been raped in Canada. An interesting claim to be certain. Made by a company with a history of serving up political polling numbers to it’s clients in the interests of drumming up business.
Yeah, the more observant among you probably noticed the “may” in that claim. There’s a reason for that. You see out of the women that they polled 17% of them said that they were raped OR sexually assaulted (remember the “OR”,this will be important in a minute) while 12% percent failed to provide an answer. This is because they either refused to take the poll, answer that specific question, didn’t pick up the phone, or some similiar reason. So if you add up the people who said yes with the people from whom there was no response you get 29%.Hence as many as 30% of women may have been raped……..
Well with that kind of crackerjack brilliant methodology and testing I can’t imagine why they aren’t the top research company in the world.
Now, if one were to look again at the claim made in their title, they clearly state that the number which they are putting forth is the number of rapes. However in other places within their synopsis they say sexual assault and rape. Even the questions which they asked the people who took the poll specifically asked if they had been raped or sexually assaulted. You might not understand why this is an important distinction so allow me to explain.
Sexual assault is a term that covers a large variety of possible situations, not just one specific thing. Similiar to domestic violence.
Domestic violence does not necessarily entail one partner being beaten or injured, as we often perceive. The term can easily cover an argument between a husband and wife where one partner punches a wall. Throws a dish across the room, or any number of other things. It is the same thing with sexual assault, a sexual assault could be anything from a drunken kiss on new years to sexual torture. In fact only a very small portion of sexual assault cases are what are classified as “major” sexual assaults (about 2%), ones that cause actual physical harm.
So, it’s not even 17% of women that were raped as their title claims, it’s rapes plus sexual assaults, many of which are going to be extremely minor instances.
In 2010 there were just over 17.2 million women in Canada. So at 30% that means potentially 5.16 million women raped in Canada. Or 30,000 for every 100,00 women in this country. To put this into better perspective, the official rape rate as of 2010 was 1.7 women for every 100,000. So what they are trying to tell you is that either the real rape rate is FOUR HUNDRED-THOUSAND TIMES bigger than the reported rape rate, and somehow nobody but them noticed,or that in the last four years Canada has devolved into a place where women are raped daily on the city streets and in broad daylight in droves.
Let me put it this way. According to the real numbers in 2010 1.7 women raped yearly out of every 100,000 translates into 292.4 rapes yearly across the country.Since the poll was dealing with a lifetime period rather than yearly let’s say look at a forty year period from age twenty to age sixty. During these forty years if the rate stays relatively steady there will be 11, 695 women raped. Now according to them the number of women raped over a lifetime period is 30,000 out of every 100,000. Meaning that there are (according to them) 5, 160,000 women raped in that forty year period.
Makes you wonder how Canadians here get anything done when we can barely manage to get an hours of work in between rape sessions.
What? Is it something in the water? Did global warming finally catch up with us and dry out portions of our brain causing massive bursts of sociopathy?
Seriously, do they really think people are this fucking stupid?
Well apparently some of them are. Since Hope24/7 recently started using this article from metronews.ca on their website. Even quoting feminist Elizabeth Sheehy as saying that the figure was a “lowball” estimate. Well there’s certainly no reason that we shouldn’t trust the judgement of a woman who thinks that charging women with murdering men is “arbitrary” at best on an issue like this. Her views on the rights of women to murder their husbands in their sleep makes her perfectly suited to judge this logically and rationally.
Furthering this polls problems is that everything about it is self-selected and reported. The respondents to the poll used their own judgement on whether anything had happened to them.Meaning that aside from the fact that we’re dealing with the unreliability of human memory there is no standardized criteria being used for rape or sexual assault.It simply is because the person answering the poll says that it is.
Speaking of standardization, there’s none in the general methodology either. Forum Research conducts its surveys using automated machines to phone selected numbers who then respond to recorded messages asking the questions. Meaning that there is no way of knowing who is actually answering these questions. The purely automated nature of these calls has also meant that in many instances with their other polls people have been called to participate multiple times,a fact even admitted to by Forums president; though not a cause for concern according to him. The president stated in an interview with the Canadian Press that “We know (automated phone polls) can work,there’s just no question about that.”
Can work, yes possibly, if one bothers to put any standards or measurements in place.As opposed to using sloppy methods to support an ideology.
Let’s look at President Lorne Bozinoff’s final words at the end of the poll, for a moment.
“These findings quantify what has been anecdotally obvious since the Ghomeshi and Cosby affairs became news; women do not trust the authorities, nor the way their cases will be handled, enough to report something as deeply damaging as rape to the police.”
Quantify what has been anecdotally……
Seriously, fuck this guy.
Ok, here’s where he’s getting this from. In the poll the last question asked was if they reported it to the police. Of the women who said they were raped or assaulted only ten percent of them said they reported it. So he’s taking that and extrapolating it to say this is because they do not trust the police to deal with rape, which is the typical feminist line.
Nevermind that in actual studies done by the Department of Justice women who were asked why they didn’t report gave several other explanations, such as the matter having been resolved another way, they didn’t deem it important enough (remember almost all sexual assaults are relatively minor things), or considered it to be a personal matter to be dealt with on their own. Only 18% of the women studied by the department of defense listed not trusting the police as the reason for their not reporting.
Now this is just speculation on my part, but I can’t help but notice that this is roughly the same number of women that identify as feminists. So maybe it’s actually just feminists who don’t trust the police in this matter. Or at least who say that they don’t and tell women not to trust them. Because, of course, feminists want to stop rape and all of that.
Bottom line:Forum Research does shitty research.
The whole pdf. of their research can be downloaded here: